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Topic Subject:Galleons and Fluyts; Overpowered?
rferrier
Mariner
posted 09-15-09 02:25 PM EDT (US)         
I have to say that if you were playing Holland or Spain, why would you ever build anything else, at least early in the game? There isn't a warship in the game, at least until third rates or better are available, that can stand toe-to-toe with these behemoths.

I'd go as far to say that the Pirates, because of the availability of these ships to them, are easily the dominant naval faction of the first third of the game. I understand that these ships were heavily armed historically, but again historically, typically didn't carry enough crew to adequately crew the cannon they had, weren't drilled nearly as effectively as naval crews and quite often, the cannon available were old and unreliable.

Not in ETW! And I won't even get into the hull strength! Cripe!

Sorry, just needed to vent. Your comments are welcome. Hope PAtch 1.4 addresses this somewhat.
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Warguppy
Mariner
posted 09-15-09 03:20 PM EDT (US)     1 / 7       
It might be a balancing issue regarding Spain and the UP. Spain relies heavily on the Caribbean so needs a strong early on ships to defend it all. Plus they are always contending with teh Barbary Corsairs. The UP even more so regarding trade defence since they are spread over all 3 theatres. That's the way I see it at least.

Life was much easier before I developed a sense of ethics.
rferrier
Mariner
posted 09-15-09 03:28 PM EDT (US)     2 / 7       
That might be so. Beyond that, however, my main concern are the pirates. And I still don't understand why control of the Leeward Islands is a permanent cure for global piracy. Go figure.
Warguppy
Mariner
posted 09-15-09 09:07 PM EDT (US)     3 / 7       
Apparently the pirates suffer from the disadvantages of centralized authority and planning. Kind of like what plaqued the Soviet Union.

Life was much easier before I developed a sense of ethics.
Pitt
Commodore
posted 09-15-09 09:40 PM EDT (US)     4 / 7       
Apparently the pirates suffer from the disadvantages of centralized authority and planning. Kind of like what plaqued the Soviet Union.
It's all that sugar on their Caribbean islands. A gentle flossing will remove them.

Without access to their sugar hits, the pirates just become hypoactive and withdrawn.

"Into the face of the young man who sat on the terrace of the Hotel Magnifique at Cannes there had crept a look of furtive shame, the shifty, hangdog look which announces that an Englishman is about to talk French." - P.G. Wodehouse, The Luck of the Bodkins

[This message has been edited by Pitt (edited 09-15-2009 @ 09:41 PM).]

rferrier
Mariner
posted 09-16-09 01:55 PM EDT (US)     5 / 7       
Ha! I've found that toothpicks work better than floss, specifically the toothpicks on the ends of French muskets.
rob_redcoat
Mariner
posted 09-16-09 03:28 PM EDT (US)     6 / 7       
Somalia hasn't been discovered on the map yet. The pirates are hiding there!!
Sondre_norge
Mariner
posted 09-17-09 08:59 AM EDT (US)     7 / 7       
Well you got to remember one thing about the pirats in real. They was the vikings of their age. Was 100 year before any other in naval technologi. They also developed many kind of cannons. But they may be OP but remember that Pirates dident normaly want to destroy the ship, only raid it. And then sink it =P


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